La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

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Message par Corsugone » 10 août 2017 17:45

Le pullover ne veut pas entendre parler de Dino, enfin non, on ne sait pas vraiment, lui même non plus d'ailleurs. En fait, comme ce mec n'est qu'un financier, rien de plus, il devrait laisser les analystes financiers décider pour lui, ce qui amènera forcément à l'avènement de la Dino, le fameux modèle low cost ..... à 150.000€

MILAN -- Ferrari is evaluating whether to build a modern version of its 1960s Dino small sports car but it may not happen because of fears that it would dilute the brand's exclusivity.

Ferrari CEO Sergio Marchionne said there are split views within the automaker's management on whether to revive the Dino nameplate for an entry-level sports car. Not everyone is convinced it would be a good move, he said.

The idea of reviving the Dino is being "kicked around," Marchionne said on a call with analysts to discuss the automaker's second-quarter financial results.

Marchionne said it would be dangerous to lower the entry level price for a Ferrari.

He also said he was unsure whether a cheaper Ferrari is necessary to attract younger buyers since the brand has a "phenomenally young" customer base in Asia who can afford the brand's expensive cars.

"We need to explore ways to attract customers to traditional values of the brand such as style, performance and engine sound before downgrading the entry level price for the brand," Marchionne said.

'Surprise' dismissal

Bernstein analyst Max Warburton said in a note to investors: "Marchionne appeared to dismiss the idea that a smaller Dino sports car is imminent, to our surprise."

Former Ferrari Chairman Luca di Montezemolo resisted suggestions that the brand should build a modern Dino but the possibility was revived when Marchionne took over as chairman in 2015.

Marchionne aims to boost Ferrari's profits by increasing annual deliveries beyond a self-imposed limit of 10,000 cars. To achieve this, Ferrari will need to broaden its appeal beyond drivers attracted by its powerful 8-cylinder and 12-cylinder models. In 2005 Marchionne said a V-6 sports car like the Dino is "not a question of if but when."

A new Dino could start in Italy from around 150,000 euros, about 20 percent below the current cheapest model, the 190,000-euro California T, company insiders said.

Evercore ISI analyst George Galliers said if Ferrari builds a V-6 car, the company would have to ensure that its performance was comfortably ahead of other sports-car makers such as McLaren Automotive and Porsche and to a lesser extent Audi and Mercedes-Benz.

During the second-quarter call Marchionne said a decision on the Dino will be made public when Ferrari holds an investor day announcing its next-five year plan, likely during the first quarter of next year.

He also confirmed that Ferrari is considering challenging in the growing market for ultraluxury SUV/crossovers with a roomy, four-seat "utility" vehicle. It would be for "the selected few" and would not to compete with the high-end sports car brands such as Porsche, he said.

Ferrari built the mid-engined, rear-drive Dino from 1968 to 1976 as part of an engine joint venture with Fiat that led to production of Dino cars for both brands. The Ferrari cars did not carry the brand's prancing horse logo. The model was named Dino in memory of Ferrari founder Enzo Ferrari's son, Dino Ferrari, who died from a chronic illness aged 24.
"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Re: La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

Message par Corsugone » 02 oct. 2017 07:49

Intéressante discussion vidéo sur les 70 ans de Ferrari et Marchionne ..... ce n'est pas la première fois que j'entends cela ....
"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 11 oct. 2017 14:36

Nicolas Materazzi nous parle de sa relation avec Enzo Ferrari et de l'aventure turbo en F1 .... il y a 35 ans. Toujours aussi passionnant à suivre.

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"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 21 nov. 2017 22:12

Il sera l'ingénieur de piste de Gilles Villeneuve et le patron de la gestion sportive de Ferrari.

"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par Corsugone » 05 déc. 2017 12:48

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"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Message par boboracingteam » 05 déc. 2017 17:17

Les faux échappements il en pense quoi ? :mrgreen:
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Re: La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

Message par Tom63 » 05 déc. 2017 20:43

Tu noteras qu’il ne mentionne pas non plus le Dakota! :mrgreen:
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Re: La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

Message par Corsugone » 06 déc. 2017 08:13

Intéressant de lire le passé pour comprendre le futur .... je plussoie, cette "Pinin" même si datée, avec quelques adaptations stylistiques n'aurait rien à envier aux voitures modernes et même Mauro Forghieri semble moyennement apprécier la design des Ferrari Modernes. (Sous-Titres Français)

"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Re: La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

Message par Corsugone » 06 déc. 2017 20:35

La suite des aventures d'Antonio Tomaini, voila de quoi était fait ce futur bras droit d'Enzo Ferrari mais en attendant il fut un proche de Carlo Abarth.

"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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Re: La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

Message par nono2 » 07 déc. 2017 08:56

Sympa tes vidéos mais le sujet n'est-il pas la future philosophie des Ferrari de route ? ;)

Pourquoi ne pas ouvrir un post dédié ? 8)
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Re: La future philosophie des Ferrari de route

Message par Corsugone » 07 déc. 2017 14:45

Tout a fait, j'y ai pensé puis me suis dit que mélanger le passé avec le futur avait un coté didactique mais sur le fond, tu as raison, je devrais créer un post dédié. D'un autre coté, la philosophie futur de Ferrari se réduisant uniquement à des arguments financiers mettre un peu d'humain dans ce post n'est pas un mal :)
"I have a problem with Porsches. They're wonderful cars, but I know I could never live with one. I don't go around saying that Porsches are a pile of dung, but I do know that psychologically I couldn't handle owning one" Rowan Atkinson.

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